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Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite


The Ingredients


   Audio: Track Six - "Echoes"
from the album Meddle by Pink Floyd
1971, Capital Records

Pink Floyd - Meddle


Video: "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite"
from the film 2001 directed by Stanley Kubrick
1969, MGM
   



The Setup
The video clip for this synchronicity is the end segment of 2001, subtitled "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite." This segment is the last approx. 23 minutes of the film. The audio for this synchronicity is provided by Pink Floyd's Meddle album, the last track titled "Echoes." "Echoes" is also approx. 23 minutes long.

  
The
"Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite"
title screen

To start the synchronicity, first pause2001at the beginning of "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite"; the screen should be black just before the title"Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite" phases in. Pause"Echoes"(this is easiest with a cd but if you are using a tape player just get it as close as you can). Unpause both at the same time and enjoy. It's simple, easy, and it's a definite match!!


According to some experimenters out on the net, who used the laser disc of 2001, the very
best match up is achieved if the scene (ie. right after the title screen, "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite"), comes up just as the third ping (three, it's the magic number!!) in "Echoes", is heard.

Source
Now you're probably asking, "Where on EARTH did you ever hear about something like this?"  Luke DeWitt, one of my fraternity brothers, showed me this synchronicity in college; he found out about it through another brother of ours, Steve Bai.

This synch got me hooked on both 2001 and Pink Floyd.  I wrote a paper on the symbolism in the segment, which was available on this site. It's been the driving force for me to put up this site, as well as my interest in a lot of other bizarreness and weirdness.


Evidence
Having since read some biographies on Pink Floyd, I think there is STRONG evidence that this synchronicity is intentional. According to Saucerful of Secrets:  The Pink Floyd Odyssey(arguably the best biography of the Pink Floyd story, and certainly my favorite):


    "Roger Waters, yet to balk at the sci-fi association, went so far as to say his 'greatest regret' was that they didn't do the score for 2001: A Space Odyssey -- parts of which, particularly in the long, mind-blowing hallucinatory sequence near the end, nonetheless sound remarkably Floydian..." 

            -- (Saucerful of Secrets, by Nicholas Schaffner, pg. 142)



The original lyrics to Floyd's "Echoes" had an outer space theme to them, as opposed to the more well-known nautical imagery in the album version.  The original opening line was "Planets meeting face to face" which seems more than coincidental in view of the imagery in the opening of "Jupiter and Beyond the Infinite."

   


But probably the biggest evidence in favor of this synch, is its sheer simplicity. Twenty-three minutes of audio, twenty-three minutes of video.  The changes are in the right places, and thematically the music fits the visuals quite well.  I don't know of any other synch that really comes close.

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David93Whitton1989's picture

I thought it was a great sync

Today, I bought both the albums Wish You Were Here and Meddle. The reason I bought those records is because I own the movies Blade Runner and 2001: A Space Odyssey. Earlier today, I was doing this very famous sync and I thought it was just 100% brilliant. I thought the mood of the music matched insanely well with the atmosphere of space and travel. I also showed it to my family, until my father ruined it by touching the top of the CD player, which made the song "Echoes" stop playing. To be honest with you, I've never seen 2001: A Space Odyssey in it's entirety (I have seen bits of it before when I was at high school), but my mum said I should because the film does happen to be an insane masterpiece, something I always admit. I will try out the Wish You Were Here/Blade Runner sync as well and the version of Blade Runner I own happens to be Director's Cut (which happens to be the only version available mostly on DVD, until Final Cut came out on Blu-Ray, but I'm recently watching a month of superhero movies (I'm a fan of comic books and superheroes), so I'll do it sometime before the end of the month. My father also showed me how I could record a video played simultaneously while playing music from a CD. I would like to also do this with Wizard of Oz/Dark Side of the Moon and Alice in Wonderland/The Wall, but I can't from where I come from, because The Wizard of Oz goes for 97 minutes (USA 101 minutes) and Alice in Wonderland goes for 72 minutes (USA 75 minutes). That's all for now.

Simply amazing

I found this site while searching for information on the Dark Side of Oz synchronicity. I've been playing that for friends of mine for years now, and it never fails to get a good reaction. So I was reading the home page and decided to try this synchronicity since Floyd and Kubrick are a couple of my all-time favorites in their respective industries.

My setup
Video source
HD DVD - If you've not seen the hi-def remaster, you are missing out.
Audio source
Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab (MSFL) UltraDisc II CD - The same thing can be said of the audio quality of this release, though I wish I had the LP.
Timing
The Start time on my HD DVD was 1:56:59, the frame just before the scene title appears. The start time of Echoes was, of course, the very beginning of the track. The third ping was not exactly synchronized as noted by expirementers, but I let it play out anyway.

The synchronicities during the first 10 minutes were very impressive, but I was totally blown away by what I experienced during the age progression sequence. Synchronicities between the music and camera cuts, the look over the shoulder (both), getting up from the chair, footsteps, et cetera all appear virtually tailor made. Along with arkiver, I am of the opinion that this synchronicity was intentional, and it is a must see for all!

BTW - arkiver, I see you're using Drupal, kudos! Too bad about all the spambots on here though Sad

have you checked out "dark

have you checked out "dark side of oz" its the dark side of the moon disc set to the wizard of oz starting on the mgm lion's third growl. it's pretty cool.

billy_san's picture

This is probably

This is probably intentional, and don't get me wrong I'm probably the last person or earth to believe in such conspirics (spl?).

Roger Water's song "Perfect Sense Pt 1" describes a monkey which holds a broken bone in his hand, staring at it, JUST LIKE ON 2001.

No one flies around the sun;

Roger Waters actually had

Roger Waters actually had the TV on stage playing "2001" during the In The Flesh tour. And on the cover of Amused to Death the monkey is staring at the TV with a big eye on it, just like from the end "2001." It's not a mere coincidence ... RW *LOVES* this movie and has been open about his love for it. The synchronization of DSOTM to Oz is more likely to be a happy coincidence, but the synchronization of Echoes to 2001 is just plain eerie.

Perfect Sense

The song also includes a sound recording of this from the movie:

HAL: Stop Dave
Will you stop Dave?
Stop Dave
I'm afraid
I'm afraid
Dave, my mind is going
I can feel it
I can feel it
My mind is going
There is no question about it
I can feel it
I can feel it
I can feel it
I'm afraid

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arkiver's picture

copyright...

Posting a video file of an actual synch, using material like 2001, is actually a copyright violation. Since both the movie and music companies have been highly aggressive about suing anyone they even suspect of violating their copyrights, this site has instead opted to provide the directions for you to "make your own" since copyright law does not give them the power to define what you can do in your own home (yet anyway).

For more info on copyright, check out the EFF website (www.eff.org). But that's why there aren't any video files here. The 1st Arkive contest will hopefully change that, but that does require using non-copyrighted stuff, which is fairly difficult since most of the material that synchers here have been using is copyrighted. It's not impossible though...

peace,
--mj
arkiver

The Magic Theatre
for madmen only
Price of admittance your mind
Not for everybody.

End Of Both 2001 and Echoes

The sounds at the end of Echoes (sort of a howling sound) are quite similar to the sounds on the actual 2001 soundtrack. There is indeed a lot of evidence towards this one being deliberate. Also, Roger Waters wanted to use some sound clips from 2001 on his album Amused To Death, but Stanley Kubrick declined (the song describes a 'monkey on a pile of stone', like in the beginning scene of 2001, there is a backward message at that part of the song instead of the sound clips, which mentions Stanley Kubrick, and the sound clips of 2001 were eventually added to Roger Waters' live album In The Flesh). And the 'Monolith' is certainly a sort of Albatross...

arkiver's picture

This one is my personal favorite...

If you haven't already tried this one, it's definitely worth checking out. Having done a comparison of the original soundtrack and Echoes, the music changes all seem to be in the same places, and the moods they evoke are startlingly similar.

Plus, this is just a great sequence of film... abstract, yes, but great nonetheless.

peace,
--mj
arkiver

The Magic Theatre
for madmen only
Price of admittance your mind
Not for everybody.

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