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Updated, February 5th, 2006: Since this project has now morphed into the Community Stories features, I'm moving these threads back into Group Shared Projects and closing the Synchbook subforum.

so, I've been thinking off and on about the anthology project. What form would it take really and what kind of collaboration it could be. Potentials, really I guess. Had some thoughts that it might be kind of neat to do each chapter as a question, kinda like an interview, and then have a variety of different responses from people here as "sub-chapters", or sections or something. I'd like to make it almost an "open-source" kind of thing, at least from my "techie" perspective....

Thoughts?

Anyone still interested in this project?

--mj
arkiver

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TL's picture

Well, the bad behavior was a

Well, the bad behavior was a big part of the reason I left, and I know I wasn't alone in that. I think policing certain kinds of activity, as distasteful as it probably is to you to do it, might be a giant step forward in terms of building or re-building the community. I say that having absolutely no idea where things stand right now.

On an unrelated note, maybe the book needs to be abandoned. I don't know. It sounds almost as if those of us who supported the idea might be trying to force it into some new kind of shape, because the original way we imagined it -- it just never materialized.

Now it's going to end up some kind of mutant thing.

That almost never works.

so where is everyone?

where'd all the folks that left here go anyway? Anyone let them know it's gotten a bit better around here?

scf

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static/dynamic

TL,

Unfortunately, I came to the same conclusion on the bad behavior thing. Although I found some of O's posts interesting, in a very anarchic, rambling kind of way, they reminded me a lot of one of the core arguments in Robert Pirsig's Lila (RP wrote Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Lila is the follow-up to that). That argument basically states that you need a balance between staticness and dynamicness. Too far into the static range and things become fossilized... too far into dynamic, and it all just flies apart. O's posts were dynamic in the sense that no one ever knew what he was talking about. Too dynamic and long-winded too.

On the book front, I think the idea does need postponing for sure. Maybe one day the community will have accumulated enough content to reconsider it. But in the meantime, I think there is a lot of value in sharing stories in a more "archival" format (as opposed to just message posts in a forum). So that's what I'd like to see happen... but like you pointed out, it can't be forced, it would have to be something people are intersted in, enough to actually contribute to. SO I guess we'll have to see...

peace,
--mj
arkiver

The Magic Theatre
for madmen only
Price of admittance your mind
Not for everybody.

TL's picture

Karl, you're great.Did

Karl, you're great.

Did anybody try to contribute to the book, back in the day? Other than me? I can't recall.

Baker must have...

JoyGrenade must have...

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contributors...

TL,

I think I ended up with 4 or 5 submissions (I'd have to look into my PC at home to be sure). Several people committed on the board to being involved but then never got anything to me. Karl was one of the first, as well as one of the few, to come up with something and send it to me.

I guess, to kind of share where my head's at on this idea now, I'm leaning towards the idea of posting this online, almost as blog entries or "features" or something like that, and then hopefully that will do a couple things. I hope it will create some additional interest, by people reading what others think/feel/believe/experience (both in the past and currently, and maybe even ideas for the future). I hope it will start the activity of editing/revising/improving these types of things, on a community level, kinda like open source software. And furthermore, I hope it will help regalvanize me, on what I've always thought of as this site's mission.

The mission I always had in mind for the Arkive was to create a hub/community that would help link people up with this shared interest, and also serve to introduce people to the synchs, the idea of synching, and even the community. At that mission, I kinda feel like the site has never really (I mean *really*) lived up to that, partly because when things went nuts in 1997 (when DSotR hit the big time), I managed to get burnt out trying to keep up, then never really recovered. And then other things have kept coming up in the intervening years.

But, the ideas have always been there... and I have to admit, I've started enjoying the little features I've done so far, from my own perspective. A lot of that stuff I hadn't thought about in quite a while, and I hope to get more detailed as we go.

And finally, I also hope that now that I've made a few more site updates and taken a little more proactive stand on cutting down on flaming/trolling/general bad behavior, that the original community that formed around this stuff will return, at least some of them, enough to get this place moving the way it should have.

Just some random ramblings...

peace,
--mj
arkiver

The Magic Theatre
for madmen only
Price of admittance your mind
Not for everybody.

.....Dreams

I would like to know what goals and dreams you have.

My goal is to make my small part of the world a better place. Much better than when I came into this world. I try to get people to coordinate and cooperate. We do not have to be uniform to express unity. We have so much to share.

When I first started matching music to movies I had a dream about being under water and moving to music. I was relaxed and living the harmony of the music. The water was refreshing and crystal blue. It was wonderful.

......Yeah!

You could have one chapter as the initial unstructured responses. I am curious what people spontaneously generated and if we are in synch.

Then the other chapters as answers to questions. That sounds fun! Count me in! People would not necessarily have to participate in both.

Can we submit questions we are curious about the rest of us answering? I'd like to know:

"Do you experience synesthesia? Does it aid you in abstract relationships like matching movies to music?".

"Do you consider yourself an artist, a technician, or both?"

"What is your favorite food, music, movie, and date activity?"

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Well...

I hate to do it, but I think I have to pronounce this project DOA. Not enough interest? Maybe it's that the site doesn't have enough real activity around it to generate that level of interest. I think the idea had a lot of validity, but it might have done better back when the community here was stronger. It probably would have done a lot better on Baker's Audio/Visual Synchronicity board.

I decided to do the basic stories/thoughts that I would've written about myself for this project as a series of features about this site. Not sure that this will really be that interesting to everyone, and I'm probably leaving out the "juicier" details, but I figured it would be a place to start....

peace,
--mj
arkiver

The Magic Theatre
for madmen only
Price of admittance your mind
Not for everybody.

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